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Chris S  Identity Verified
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Disturbed Feb 16

Dan Lucas wrote:
Lincoln got annoyed and has since been on a one-man campaign to get ProZ.com to lock them, basically by irritating others to the point that they complain to ProZ.com itself.

Unless he has severe Asperger's, I'd say it was more of a childish campaign to irritate others just for the hell of it.


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Lincoln Hui  Identity Verified
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I once was blind, but now I see the light Feb 17

So we have this necroposting ‘rule’, which someone in his (surely a male) infinite wisdom defined for some obscure reason, believing that His word must surely be the law for everybody on the planet, and why not the entire Universe and beyond?

And necroposting is bad because people who subscribe to the view that once a ‘netiquette’ rule has been defined by some dictatorial hack, no sin on Earth – or in the entire Universe, for that matter, as I hinted – is worse than brea
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So we have this necroposting ‘rule’, which someone in his (surely a male) infinite wisdom defined for some obscure reason, believing that His word must surely be the law for everybody on the planet, and why not the entire Universe and beyond?

And necroposting is bad because people who subscribe to the view that once a ‘netiquette’ rule has been defined by some dictatorial hack, no sin on Earth – or in the entire Universe, for that matter, as I hinted – is worse than breaking it, so insulting the perpetrator is par for the course, whereas ‘religious’ netiquette followers secretly hope the miserable sod will be slowly roasted over an open fire.

One must conclude that it is bad because the netiquette scriptures say it is bad, and thus the ‘religious’ followers will demonstrate how bad it is by posting nasty comments that make it clear how bad it is, so they can feel vindicated in their self-righteous and glorious beliefs.

Now that we all agree the OP is wrong, let us all fall in line and move along
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Jean Dimitriadis
 

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Point made Feb 17

Context is everything: https://www.proz.com/forum/off_topic/5384-making_own_music_cds_with_mp3_files-page3.html#2889821

 

Jo Macdonald  Identity Verified
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Buttons Feb 17

His Ownership should just add two buttons next to the "Agree" one.
"Ignore" and "Bill" (for time wasted).


Angie Garbarino
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Dan Lucas  Identity Verified
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Might be the case Feb 17

Chris S wrote:
Unless he has severe Asperger's, I'd say it was more of a childish campaign to irritate others just for the hell of it.

Interesting isn't it. Lincoln's clearly a bright lad but likely (a) is either socially inept in an online sense and doesn't understand the depth of feeling aroused or (b) understands the situation very well but simply doesn't care. I'd say (a) suggests he's somewhere on the spectrum, while (b) suggests a mild degree of sociopathy.

His logic, however irritating, is sound. It would be nice if we could rely on people not to do stupid things - which is how he probably perceives the digging up of the 20-year old thread that catalysed this issue - but if you have a community that doesn't have some means of protecting itself against bad actors, this is what inevitably happens at some point.

I've seen it on other forums, but it's usually mitigated by reputational mechanisms and moderators who are more willing to hand out bans. ProZ.com doesn't have a system for accumulating or depleting reputation and reflecting that in user visibility (don't think you can even mute other users, which is kinda crazy in 2021), so that's not an option. As for banning, this is a paid membership site so excluding people is a pretty extreme option.

Exactly why he's allowed this particular bee in his bonnet, I don't know. His response does seem, er, disproportionate.

Dan


Angie Garbarino
Tom in London
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Lincoln Hui  Identity Verified
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Falling in line Feb 17

Like I've said multiple times, I'm just falling in line with the community's stance that snark, one-line responses to 20 year-old threads that are completely anachronistic and do nobody any good are to be defended, encouraged and promoted. Criticism of necroposting is not just self-righteous, it's also misogynistic.

It seems rather disproportionate to start a new thread to complain about what the community has declared to be not just perfectly normal, but above reproach.


 

Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
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Not against the rules Feb 17

Lincoln Hui wrote:


It seems rather disproportionate to start a new thread to complain about what the community has declared to be not just perfectly normal, but above reproach.


In my opinion there is problem here, so I decided to make it explicit. Forums here are very important, and I would like to avoid they become like Facebook. Resuscitating some of them (not all of them) is childish and disrespectful.


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Lincoln Hui  Identity Verified
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Well then Feb 17

You'll have to take it up with the community. I am simply following what my white masters have decreed in no uncertain terms. It is not my place to have free will.

[Edited at 2021-02-17 08:50 GMT]


 

Tom in London
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Anachronistic Feb 17

Lincoln Hui wrote:

..... 20 year-old threads that are completely anachronistic ....


As it happens, I like things that are completely anachronistic and 20 years old, or even 200 years old. I find them useful and relevant. If you're not interested in them yourself, just leave them. They're not bothering you.


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Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL  Identity Verified
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Not sure... Feb 17

what race has to do with it. White masters?

[Edited at 2021-02-17 10:02 GMT]


Angie Garbarino
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Lincoln Hui  Identity Verified
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Well then... Feb 17

Tom in London wrote:

Lincoln Hui wrote:

..... 20 year-old threads that are completely anachronistic ....


As it happens, I like things that are completely anachronistic and 20 years old, or even 200 years old. I find them useful and relevant. If you're not interested in them yourself, just leave them. They're not bothering you.

Well then, you have nothing to complain. Our interests are completely aligned. And Angie has nothing to complain either; if she's not interested in them, she should leave them because they're not bothering her.

[Edited at 2021-02-17 09:38 GMT]


 

Lincoln Hui  Identity Verified
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Who knows? Feb 17

Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL wrote:

what race has to do with it. White masters?

[Edited at 2021-02-17 10:02 GMT]

But we are certainly in agreement that gender has something to do with this self-righteous, religious crusade against necroposting?


 

Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
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The gender what? Feb 17

Now it is really impossible to understand your sentences, and this is not a matter of native or non native language.


[Edited at 2021-02-17 10:53 GMT]


Tom in London
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Matthias Brombach  Identity Verified
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I have to apologize! Feb 17

Lincoln Hui wrote:

I am simply following what my white masters have decreed in no uncertain terms. It is not my place to have free will.


I see now that it was me who started this endless flow of legacy posts, because I ordered Lincoln to do so, as can be seen here:

https://www.proz.com/forum/money_matters/819-are_we_officially_in_recession-page2.html#2891488

(please scroll a bit up, when the link opens)

You may please forgive him, that he doesn't realize that proz.com wasn't alive in those times (at least not online and I don't know when they started with their printed edition): That's why he keeps on searching, and searching, and searching ...
Lincoln, stop it! Now!


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Tom in London
 

Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL  Identity Verified
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Not really... Feb 17

Lincoln Hui wrote:

Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL wrote:

what race has to do with it. White masters?

[Edited at 2021-02-17 10:02 GMT]

But we are certainly in agreement that gender has something to do with this self-righteous, religious crusade against necroposting?


Not everybody shows their gender here...


 
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