| A témához tartozó oldalak: [1 2 3] > | No more new features for memoQ desktop Téma indítója: Thomas T. Frost
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I have just read this rather shocking announcement from memoQ in several Ideas posts:
‘We appreciate your valuable suggestions and feedback on improving memoQ. Your insights help us shape the future of our platform, and we are grateful for your continued support.
‘Let me share an update regarding our development priorities:
‘While we will continue maintaining our desktop application, we will... See more I have just read this rather shocking announcement from memoQ in several Ideas posts:
‘We appreciate your valuable suggestions and feedback on improving memoQ. Your insights help us shape the future of our platform, and we are grateful for your continued support.
‘Let me share an update regarding our development priorities:
‘While we will continue maintaining our desktop application, we will no longer be introducing new features for it. Our focus is shifting towards enhancing our web-based platform. Our resources will be dedicated to developing and improving the web interface to provide a more seamless and feature-rich experience. Over time, we will gradually migrate key desktop functionalities to the web, ensuring an even better user experience. Some new features will be exclusively available on the web platform.
‘In the long run, we remain committed to ensuring that users who do not have their own servers can also benefit from our improved web solutions.’
This is extremely disappointing. It seems it will be pointless to renew the SMA from now on. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | That's really bad news | Mar 14 |
That is indeed very bad news.
MemoQ has been my CAT tool of choice for a long time. I don't particularly want to change, but I don't want to move to an online platform either.
Maybe time to start looking at alternatives.
| | | | | Will the web version be agile? | Mar 14 |
Thank you for letting everybody know! I have asked our Kilgray contact person about it.
Having our own memoQ Server in the office (we have it since 2009), and with a team of in-house 4 people + external help + 1 trainee at the moment, it is in our best interest to have a very agile tool. I do not mind if it is the web or the desktop application, but what we do need is something that runs very fast and lets us operate fast on the materials, since we process easily 3-4 thousand segme... See more Thank you for letting everybody know! I have asked our Kilgray contact person about it.
Having our own memoQ Server in the office (we have it since 2009), and with a team of in-house 4 people + external help + 1 trainee at the moment, it is in our best interest to have a very agile tool. I do not mind if it is the web or the desktop application, but what we do need is something that runs very fast and lets us operate fast on the materials, since we process easily 3-4 thousand segments of work every day. I'll certainly keep an eye on this matter! ▲ Collapse
| | | | Dan Lucas 
Egyesült Királyság
Local time: 23:07
Tag (2014 óta)
japán - angol
| The web subsumes all things | Mar 14 |
Thomas T. Frost wrote:
While we will continue maintaining our desktop application, we will no longer be introducing new features for it
Disappointing but not surprising. I think this has de facto been the case with Trados Studio for several years, although RWS hasn't had the courage to make a statement to that effect. The changes made to Studio over the past few years have been, as far as I can see without upgrading, so minor as to not deserve the title of "new version". MemoQ is simply articulating what other companies are quietly thinking to themselves. Which is an excellent reason not to pay over £900 to upgrade my version of Studio...
Dan
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| Why the price hike, then? | Mar 14 |
So, why did they increase the yearly price from 124 EUR to 360 EUR?
Their product has not really received any significant features since... forever. Even if you use memoQ 2015, there is no compelling reason to upgrade.
As for their web-based tool, its editor is rather unsightly. But hey, I am sure they have a ton of snazzy dashboards to delight all sorts of managers and a ton of AI mumbo-jambo to lure executives.
Colleagues, let me welcome you to the wonder... See more So, why did they increase the yearly price from 124 EUR to 360 EUR?
Their product has not really received any significant features since... forever. Even if you use memoQ 2015, there is no compelling reason to upgrade.
As for their web-based tool, its editor is rather unsightly. But hey, I am sure they have a ton of snazzy dashboards to delight all sorts of managers and a ton of AI mumbo-jambo to lure executives.
Colleagues, let me welcome you to the wonderful world of tools that still care for the translator, the person who does the actual work: OmegaT, Cafetran, Wordfast.
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| | | | Mario Chávez
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Local time: 18:07
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We're in discussions and demo presentations with the memoQ people to acquire one of their products (desktop versions of memoQ TMS). I took the liberty of copying the wording from the initial posting about memoQ's position on new features and sent it to our memoQ sales contact asking for clarification.
In my experience, web versions of desktop applications are poor substitutes. Even our colleagues using the online version of Word have reported intrusive formatting changes in their do... See more We're in discussions and demo presentations with the memoQ people to acquire one of their products (desktop versions of memoQ TMS). I took the liberty of copying the wording from the initial posting about memoQ's position on new features and sent it to our memoQ sales contact asking for clarification.
In my experience, web versions of desktop applications are poor substitutes. Even our colleagues using the online version of Word have reported intrusive formatting changes in their documents. Tying a translation (or any other) workflow to a web server is a very risky proposition.
The silver lining on this dark cloud: all applications reach a development peak beyond which improvements are minimally incremental. For instance, a 2003 copy of Office is plenty sturdy to work with Word, PowerPoint, Excel sheets today in 2025. ▲ Collapse
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Epameinondas Soufleros wrote:
So, why did they increase the yearly price from 124 EUR to 360 EUR?
Their product has not really received any significant features since... forever. Even if you use memoQ 2015, there is no compelling reason to upgrade.
€360 is the subscription price where you don't have to buy a perpetual licence first.
Probably not enough translators are paying the annual SMA for things to make sense for them financially, so they are pulling the rug from under us.
They did implement lots of improvements since 2015, not only for agencies.
The AI disruption is probably another factor.
Those of us with a perpetual licence can of course keep using the newest frozen version we've paid for, and it looks like my renewal last June was the final one. It can probably last until I retire. Who knows what our industry is going to look like in a few years? CAT tools in their present form may also have seen their day.
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Depressing news.
Kilgray really could have communicated this to us in a more considerate way than just leaking such groundbreaking news in an obscure, closed portal. A more decent move would have been to inform customers of this decision in advance so that we could decide whether we wanted to pay for another year of “development” or not.
I've been using memoQ since version 2.0. Back when it was just postcard-ware. I've been paying the annual renewal fee for almost... See more Depressing news.
Kilgray really could have communicated this to us in a more considerate way than just leaking such groundbreaking news in an obscure, closed portal. A more decent move would have been to inform customers of this decision in advance so that we could decide whether we wanted to pay for another year of “development” or not.
I've been using memoQ since version 2.0. Back when it was just postcard-ware. I've been paying the annual renewal fee for almost 20 years now, and the way it ends is just… disappointing.
perpetual licence […] can probably last until I retire
Right… Until one day you get a new computer and your old memoQ version can no longer be activated beyond the "4free" mode — because Kilgray either no longer exists, has discontinued the activation server, or has changed their policy one more time.  ▲ Collapse
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| Depressing for sure | Mar 14 |
Yes. some of us don't want (or need) cloud computing. Why should we be made to suffer?
Let's bombard memoQ with our objection to this step.
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Tomasz Sienicki wrote:
Right… Until one day you get a new computer and your old memoQ version can no longer be activated beyond the "4free" mode — because Kilgray either no longer exists, has discontinued the activation server, or has changed their policy one more time.
My advice is to move memoQ to a virtual machine as soon as possible.
| | | | Dan Lucas
Egyesült Királyság
Local time: 23:07
Tag (2014 óta)
japán - angol
| How does that work? | Mar 15 |
CafeTran Trainer wrote:
My advice is to move memoQ to a virtual machine as soon as possible.
Does that effectively sandbox it or something? (Genuine question - I have never used a virtual machine before.)
Dan
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Dan Lucas wrote:
Does that effectively sandbox it or something? (Genuine question - I have never used a virtual machine before.)
Dan
Yes it does.
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| Checked every 30 days | Mar 15 |
CafeTran Trainer wrote:
Tomasz Sienicki wrote:
Right… Until one day you get a new computer and your old memoQ version can no longer be activated beyond the "4free" mode — because Kilgray either no longer exists, has discontinued the activation server, or has changed their policy one more time.
My advice is to move memoQ to a virtual machine as soon as possible.
According to ChatGPT, memoQ checks a perpetual license on its servers every 30 days, so I don't see what difference a virtual machine would make.
If someone has a perpetual licence, it would be a breach of the licence conditions to arbitrarily stop validating it, at least as long as the company exists. I don't see why they would start sabotaging users this way. But there is no guarantee that the desktop software will keep working with servers in the long term. Hopefully I'll be retired by then.
| | | | Mario Chávez
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Local time: 18:07
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angol - spanyol
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| Why a virtual machine? | Mar 15 |
CafeTran Trainer wrote:
My advice is to move memoQ to a virtual machine as soon as possible.
Even users of abandonware Déjà Vu X2/X3 are using this CAT application in Windows 10/11 without issues. Virtual machines aren't the answer. Windows 10 will continue to be supported by Microsoft, officially until October this year, I believe. There are many very good applications that are no longer officially supported by their developers that work just fine in today's operating systems.
Here's a thought experiment: consider doing translations without any kind of CAT application. Yes, you can do it, more slowly for sure, but your writing quality won't suffer; you'll still research the concepts and terms new to you as always.
Computer applications reach a zenith in terms of useful features, beyond which only small incremental gains await those who keep upgrading to the latest version. How many of us use all of the features included in any particular application, let alone memoQ, RWS Trados, what have you? I'm not one of them, I'll never be one of them because I don't need all the features, and some of them just get in the way. Quoting notable band Talking Heads, “Same as it ever was.”
| | | | | CAT tools are a must | Mar 15 |
Mario Chávez wrote:
Here's a thought experiment: consider doing translations without any kind of CAT application. Yes, you can do it, more slowly for sure, but your writing quality won't suffer; you'll still research the concepts and terms new to you as always.
We live in a market and our market cannot really function without translation memories (+MT[+AI]) anymore. If we charged clients for repeat/similar translations time and time again, many would cut their translations to the bare minimum. The collapse in our industry would be quite blunt, I think.
Your CAT tool of choice is quite strategic and no CAT tool is perfect. We still have no really good solution for MT integrated in your CAT tool (quality is still not that good, especially in non-English combinations), and AI is supposed to be integrated somehow in the loop but still is not really there or its results are not reliable enough for quality work. The "human in the loop" is tired of trying to teach the machine to do things right.
I think we will have to live Rambo style: day by day!
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