Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

heavy rigid vehicle

Serbian translation:

teška motorna vozila

Added to glossary by Natasa Ikodinovic
Nov 6, 2016 09:20
7 yrs ago
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English term

heavy rigid vehicle

English to Serbian Tech/Engineering Automotive / Cars & Trucks
"Heavy Rigid (HR class) vehicles; motor vehicle that has 3 or more axles and a gross vehicle mass greater than 8 tonnes"
Change log

Nov 18, 2016 09:44: Natasa Ikodinovic Created KOG entry

Discussion

Natasa Ikodinovic Nov 8, 2016:
Apsolutno se slažem sa vašim razmišljanjem, i zbog iste dileme sam svima objašnjavala ponuđeni prevod :)
sofijana Nov 7, 2016:
To sam shvatila i mislim da je vaš prevod najbolje moguće rešenje. Ovo je bilo više "glasno razmišljanje" za sve nas - da li negde u okviru prevoda MORA da se nađe i reč "rigid" (prevedena), jer da nije bilo bitno navesti je u originalu, verovatno da bi se onda ovakva vozila zvala jednostavno "heavy vehicles" :)
Natasa Ikodinovic Nov 7, 2016:
Izostavljeno "rigid" Kao prevod je ponuđena opštija fraza kao naziv kategorije a ne kao striktni opis vozila, jer je u nastavku svakako dat opis vozila na koji se naziv kategorije odnosi.
sofijana Nov 7, 2016:
What about "rigid"? "A rigid vehicle has two axle sets, a driver’s position, a steering system, motive power and a single rigid chassis. A small range of special vehicles with one registration plate, and a chassis split into two dependent parts and connected by means of a permanent steering pivot, are also legally rigid vehicles, for example an articulated bus."

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teška motorna vozila

"teška motorna vozila" nije ekvivalent po kategorijama u Srbiji,
jer se direktna ekvivalencija ne može uspostaviti.
Ovo je prevod fraze, a vi ćete u nastavku i onako dati odrednicu šta je teško vozilo po
pravillima područja s kojeg dolazi tekst (težina, broj osovina...)

U EU pravilima na hrvatskom jedna grupa vozila se baš tako
imenuje i uključuje velike kamione, autobuse s tri osovine...

3 Teška vozila Vozila za zahtjevne poslove, turistička vozila, autobusi, s tri ili više osovina
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/HR/TXT/?uri=CELEX:020...
Peer comment(s):

agree Natasa Stankovic : Mislim da je to potpuno prihvatljio, a detaljinije objašnjenje je dato u daljem tekstu. Slažem se sa vama da se direktna ekvivalencija sa srpskim propisima ovde ne može (i ne mora) uspostaviti.
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agree sofijana
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teretno vozilo sa prikolicom

teretna vozila u koja spadaju autobus ili kamion sa masom vecom od 8 tona, plus prikolica.

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http://www.transport.tas.gov.au/licensing/information/licenc...
Peer comment(s):

disagree sofijana : "Vrsta M - vozila za prevoz lica", a klasa "N" su teretna vozila; videti referencu. Teretnim vozilom ne možete prevoziti putnike i zato autobusi nisu "teretna vozila" već "vozila za prevoz lica".
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disagree Daryo : "heavy" is missing + the trailer is optional / an addition while the "main component" is rigid IOW it's not an "artic" i.e. an "articulated lorry"
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Reference comments

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Reference:

PRAVILNIK O PODELI MOTORNIH I PRIKLJUČNIH VOZILA...

http://www.paragraf.rs/propisi/pravilnik_o_podeli_motornih_i...



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http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_serbian/automotive_cars...

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_serbian/automotive_cars...
Peer comments on this reference comment:

disagree Irena Rusimov : Ovo sto ste postavili je za medium rigid vehicles. A link koji je u jednom od ovih donjih linkova je slican onom koji sam ja postavila.
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U "Medium rigid" je koleginica lepo objasnila da je kod nas drugačija kategorizacija vozila. Takođe, putnici (u smislu autobuskog prevoza) se nikako ne prevoze teretnim vozilima što je lepo opisano u navedenom Pravilniku.
agree Daryo : useful as starting point
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neutral Natasa Stankovic : Mislim da se ovde ne možete primeniti srpski pravilnik na australijske (ili, možda, novozelandske) propise - v. Ref.
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Upravo tako... Kod nas su za kategorije vozila uvedene slovne oznake, ali i u okviru tih slovnih oznaka nije preciziran element koji se odnosi na "težinu preko 8 tona"...
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Reference:

NZ Transport Agency - What is a heavy rigid vehicle?

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Heavy rigid vehicles are those with a maximum gross vehicle mass (GVM, usually specified by the manufacturer) over 3500 kilograms (kg).

A rigid vehicle has two axle sets, a driver’s position, a steering system, motive power and a single rigid chassis. A small range of special vehicles with one registration plate, and a chassis split into two dependent parts and connected by means of a permanent steering pivot, are also legally rigid vehicles, for example an articulated bus.

Heavy rigid vehicles include heavy trucks (classes NB and NC), heavy buses (classes MD3, MD4 and ME), heavy mobile homes, mobile cranes, fire engines, heavy forklifts, heavy tractors, heavy self-powered agricultural and construction machines and vehicles with pivot steering.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicles/vehicle-types/vehicle-clas...

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Government of South Australia
My heavy vehicle licence
- The term 'heavy vehicle' applies to the trucks, B-doubles and road trains that transport goods across Australia. It also includes buses, trams, agricultural machinery, livestock transporters, tankers, grain and delivery trucks and other long and possibly slow moving vehicles on our roads.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral sofijana : A kod nas su to vozila klase "M, N, O" po kategorizaciji iz Pravilnika (vidi.ref.), članovi 6, 7 i 8
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Možda, ali osim toga, u tom našem pravilniku nema svih ovde navedenih vozila i, što je najvažnije, u tom pravilniku nema ekvivalentne zbirne kategorije "heavy rigid vehicle" - a to je ono što se traži.
agree Daryo
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