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Baran Keki 
Türkiye
Local time: 11:55
Member
English to Turkish
| Ranking matters | Apr 22, 2021 |
I can't quite understand those who coolly say "oh I don't give a monkeys about my ranking, I already have enough clients etc. etc."
What exactly does paid membership offer you (other than seeing the reviews on BB and accessing the video library, though I'm not sure if this is a privilege reserved for the Plus members) that it doesn't offer to the non-paying members? I'd really like to know what I'm missing out on or ignorant of.
There is a reason why people are willing to pay tons o... See more I can't quite understand those who coolly say "oh I don't give a monkeys about my ranking, I already have enough clients etc. etc."
What exactly does paid membership offer you (other than seeing the reviews on BB and accessing the video library, though I'm not sure if this is a privilege reserved for the Plus members) that it doesn't offer to the non-paying members? I'd really like to know what I'm missing out on or ignorant of.
There is a reason why people are willing to pay tons of money (not to mention write stupid articles and annoyingly share them on every social media outlet) to rank somewhere on the first page of Google, and why they say "you can hide a body on the second page of Google". ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Putting it off and then praying for Divine intervention | Apr 22, 2021 |
Putting it off and then praying for Divine intervention.
That's my strategy.
No, really ... I use proz more to find LSPs for certain projects on which I am a PM than to get work.
I've been swamped with my own translations clients for like ... 10 years.
Even so, I get a few contacts and new clients through my profile, without seeking to bolster it.
| | | | | why should there even be a ranking system? | Apr 23, 2021 |
Paying members should all be visible to potential clients, otherwise what's the point of paying for membership?
| | | | | There's nothing wrong in offering a paying memeber more than a non paying one. | Apr 23, 2021 |
Chris S wrote: Lieven Malaise wrote:
A bit odd to do something you don't have to do and then complain that you're not rewarded for it.
I'm not complaining. I just think it's wrong. I did pay one year. People kept emailing me. It was hell.
It's a business model as old as the Internet and it's completely transparent because anyone with common sense knows a paying member will have better use of all the site's perks.
Most people consider being a site member a more professional approach to trying to land work through the site. It shows you both can and are willing to invest in better use of this site.
I think kudoz system is rubbish and some of the moderators on proz.com are unprofessional hypocritical hacks, but to accuse them of being unprofessional for offering more to their paying members than non-paying ones is failing to understand the business model.
What non-paying members get is nothing but a way for proz.com to advertise what they can offer to their paying members. They are a work/jobs marketplace site and in no way do they claim that they vet their members in any way. Everyone knows that to be a member you simply pay for it and that gives you more perks in every way, including better visibility. They have other badges for vetted members and to get those certain badges you must go through a vetting process.
When you say it was hell that people kept offering you work the year that you were a paying member just proves once more that you failed to understand what you were paying for.
As a non-profit job marketplace, proz.com and its members would encounter the same problems we encounter now only the people working at a non-profit would have less incentive to resolve the issues and problems.
@prozz staff, I think the feedback, giving it and receiving it, might be the fairest of the three metrics.
Edit: I personally didn't feel that the question implied anything other than kudoz affected our rankings. It simply asked: In theory, if you could choose, which of the three would you prefer?
[Edited at 2021-04-23 08:17 GMT]
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| How did I get it so wrong? | Apr 23, 2021 |
Korana Lasić wrote:
It's a business model as old as the Internet and it's completely transparent because anyone with common sense knows a paying member will have better use of all the site's perks
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When you say it was hell that people kept offering you work the year that you were a paying member just proves once more that you failed to understand what you were paying for.
I thought I was paying for a higher ranking so I would be offered interesting work at sensible rates by new clients.
I was not aware of any other perks of membership that would be of use to me.
Are there any trainings here that could teach me common sense and help me understand what I was really paying for?
| | | | | Ranking it and raking it | Apr 23, 2021 |
that's the question...
EDIT: ok, it should be raking it in, but it didn't sound as good... 
[Edited at 2021-04-23 11:59 GMT]
| | | | Marina Steinbach
United States
Local time: 04:55
Member (2011)
English to German
Chris S wrote:
Are there any trainings here that could teach me common sense and help me understand what I was really paying for?
Absolutely! There's the Plus-subscriber video library with 800+ hours of content. But you will have to purchase the Plus package in order to enjoy the added dimension in your ProZ.com experience...
| | | | expressisverbis
Portugal
Local time: 09:55
Member (2015)
English to Portuguese
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Whether it's on Kudoz, Forums (I didn't know Forums could improve our ranking position!) or anywhere else, I prefer the method of being fair and helpful rather than being opportunistic and worthless.
I don't care much about my ranking, I just let things take their normal course.
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[Edited at 2021-04-23 15:42 GMT]
| | | | Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 05:55
Member (2014)
English to Portuguese
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| KudoZ is the only way | Apr 27, 2021 |
Answering questions is actually the only one that works. The other methods mentioned do not imporve your ranking position in the list of translators searched by potential clients. If they do, it's very little. And, yes, Chris, you must be a paying member, of course.
But I love when people say it doesn't make a difference. They really have no idea how clients find translators in ProZ. Or perhaps they have other more efficient ways to get clients, which is quite possible. But in ProZ, sorry,... See more Answering questions is actually the only one that works. The other methods mentioned do not imporve your ranking position in the list of translators searched by potential clients. If they do, it's very little. And, yes, Chris, you must be a paying member, of course.
But I love when people say it doesn't make a difference. They really have no idea how clients find translators in ProZ. Or perhaps they have other more efficient ways to get clients, which is quite possible. But in ProZ, sorry, but no other way.
[Edited at 2021-04-27 02:39 GMT] ▲ Collapse
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