2008 Olympic Games in Beijing

不参加开幕式,但会参加闭幕式.典型的政客.

pkchan wrote:

下一次是在倫敦，闭幕式有交五環旗給下一屆主辦國的儀式，所以要出席。


[Edited at 2008-04-22 14:24]

isahuang wrote:

是这样啊,要他亲自去接旗啊?

Wenjer Leuschel wrote:

面子问题，对某种文化下生长的人而言，难哟。

isahuang wrote:



而是因为,那些法国人受他们的媒体宣传的影响执意认为中国武装侵略了一个"国家",不相信旧西藏是农奴制,认为达赖拿过诺贝尔,又是精神领袖,不可能错,错的一定是中共.他们认为女友,太太都被洗脑了. 我朋友还有她的女友们还不至于幼稚到因为抵制这种不理智的活动而导致婚姻关系紧张的分上.我朋友快被气出毛病来了,是因为她怎么跟法国人讲述西藏以前的情况,法国人都不信,觉得她是被洗脑了,是中共杜撰出来的.我朋友头脑很清醒,我还特意问她,网上传巴黎市长侮辱中国人的言论,有这么回事吗?她马上说,那绝对是瞎编的,巴黎市长就是再怎么想出位,也不会说出那种话来.

The strong reaction from the overseas Chinese is in a large part due to the western media's omission about Tibet's past and its only focus of what is going on on the ground today. The domestic protest against the western media is going a little bit too far, I agree on this part, yet the protest is spontaneous. The west tends to portray it as organized by higher authorities. The organizers and participants of those protests are mostly those born in the 80s and 90s. People who understand China know that this group is the last that could be brainwashed by the government's propaganda machine.



[Edited at 2008-04-22 14:12]

Yueyin Sun wrote:

对于那种经常无事生非、颠倒黑白、造谣惑众、混淆视听、无端攻击、心术不正的人，最好的办法就是让他闭嘴或少开口！连在台湾的文化下许多网站都会把那种人踢出去，大概道理就在这里。

顺便问一句，你递交的那个support ticket 结果如何啊？

wherestip wrote:

Not to start a debate. But just to provide a link to the quiet diplomacy approach the Bush administration has pursued ...

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/13/asia/tibet.php

isahuang wrote:
而是因为,那些法国人受他们的媒体宣传的影响执意认为中国武装侵略了一个"国家",不相信旧西藏是农奴制,认为达赖拿过诺贝尔,又是精神领袖,不可能错,错的一定是中共.他们认为女友,太太都被洗脑了. 我朋友还有她的女友们还不至于幼稚到因为抵制这种不理智的活动而导致婚姻关系紧张的分上.我朋友快被气出毛病来了,是因为她怎么跟法国人讲述西藏以前的情况,法国人都不信,觉得她是被洗脑了,是中共杜撰出来的.我朋友头脑很清醒,我还特意问她,网上传巴黎市长侮辱中国人的言论,有这么回事吗?她马上说,那绝对是瞎编的,巴黎市长就是再怎么想出位,也不会说出那种话来.

Yueyin Sun wrote:

看来美国的政治家比较成熟些

美奥会主席：中国曾救奥运会　我欠中国人情

1984年洛杉矶奥运会的组织者、现任美国奥会主席彼德．尤伯罗斯近日在芝加哥接受了杨澜的访问。

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The USOC is focusing on preparing athletes for the games, encouraging them to speak their mind on political issues when comfortable, but not demanding they do so or that they be silent.

Ueberroth says the move toward a more open society that many believed would spring forth when the International Olympic Committee awarded the Olympics to China was happening. That hasn't been highlighted of late, though, because of nonstop news about pollution, Tibet, Darfur, human rights protests and disruptions along the torch relay.

"Having gone there every year for last seven years, the country's changed, and it's opening up every single minute," Ueberroth said. "Anyone who argues that is semi-blind. It is changing. Some could argue whether it's changing fast enough."

Ueberroth said he felt no need, during a visit to Beijing last week, to reiterate America's intention to participate in the Olympics despite growing calls for a boycott.

He said he was still under the impression that President George W. Bush will attend the games, but that if he didn't, "it's not going to dramatically affect our athletes at all."

Ueberroth seemed so confident social issues won't mar the games or steal attention from the athletes that he even had a suggestion for anyone considering a boycott of the opening ceremony, a position being more widely considered around the world over the last few months.

"I just hope anyone who doesn't go to the Olympic Games opening ceremonies has the good judgment to give their tickets to families of competing athletes from whatever country they come from," Ueberroth said.

wherestip wrote:

是啊, 看看人家这水平还差不多 ...

http://www.usolympicteam.com/117_54242.htm


http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/15/sports/NA-SPT-OLY-Beijing-US.php

"I just hope anyone who doesn't go to the Olympic Games opening ceremonies has the good judgment to give their tickets to families of competing athletes from whatever country they come from," Ueberroth said.

isahuang wrote:

刚刚看小莉看世界节目,讲西藏历史,我才知道,原来布达拉宫是为文成公主建的

Wenjer Leuschel wrote:

This is no place to talk about support tickets.

Angus Woo wrote:


在國內的輿論大力指責西方媒體偏袒的時候, 如何能夠讓西方公眾接受"你們不能用同樣的道德標準要求中國與你們一樣. 你們只要有哪怕少數報導是偏袒的就是惡意誣蔑, 而我們舉國上下屏蔽信息卻是合理的, 你們不得指責".

有什麼辦法可以解釋得通呢? 用文革式的批判方式壓制異見讓別人接受? 國內或許可以, 海外, 可能嗎? 以前民進黨上台的教訓還不夠, 準備在歐美也製造類似的民意反彈嗎?

關係緊張恰恰說明目前的策略失敗了. 應該反省了.

因為只有能讓法國的老公們更理解了中國人的觀點才是成功的策略(自己的陣營變大了), 彼此關係緊張反而代表法國的老公們被推到了與中國的女朋友對立的一面(自己的陣營反而變小了). 誤國之論, 莫過於此.

讓更多的人站在與自己不同的立場上, 感到高興的是自己的對立面, 而不是自己的盟友.